Dirty Apologist: Hiding Biblical Truth

Repost. Why do so many Christians, including our so-called Church leaders, take this verse out of context?

Insights from a husband, father, author, apologist, and theologian.

COMMONLY MISUSED BIBLE VERSES: 2 CHRONICLES 7:14

The Facebook friend agreed with Chaffey who contends that Christians cannot claim the promise of 2 Chronicles 7:14.

Psalm 33:12 “Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance.” Matthew Henry explains: “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord, even Israel, who had the knowledge of the true God and were taken into covenant with him, and all others who own God for theirs and are owned by him; for they also, whatever nation they are of, are of the spiritual seed of Abraham.”

She replied that according to Chaffey this was “a specific promise made by God to the Jewish people at the time of the first temple.”

Yes, I am aware of the context of the promise. So…Do Christian nations lose hope and despair because we’re not under the Old Covenant? God forbid. We’re under the New Covenant! And under the New Covenant, God extended His grace and mercy to all believing peoples and nations! Halleluiah!

“Apologist” Chaffey argues that Christians can’t claim Old Testament promises.

We’re not under the Old Covenant; we’re under the New Covenant. And under the New Covenant, God extended His grace and mercy to all believing nations: Halleluiah!

7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
Galatians 3: 7-9

The real children of Abraham are not his natural descendants (Mt.3:9), but those who share his faith. This was anticipated in the very language of the Abrahamic covenant, which had all nations in view.

26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Galatians 3:26-29

Therefore all nations are blessed in Abraham just in proportion as they have a similar faith. Spiritual blessings are for all true Christians and all righteous nations. Spiritual blessings are eternal.

9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:
10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
1 Peter 2:9,10

O Christians, rejoice!

Christians are God's chosen people.

O Christians, rejoice!

Read my message, "Christians Are God's Chosen People" @
http://www.libertyadvocate.com/Christians%20-%20God's%20Chosen%20People.htm

Did “Apologist” Chaffey reply to my first comment?

No!

He refused to approve it and decided to hide it!

It is my understanding that while comments on blogs are awaiting approval, the submitter will see the message “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” Once it’s approved, the comment will show as normal, without the message. But there never was a message that my comment was awaiting moderation. Undeniably, Chaffey refused to approve my comment or reply, and decided to ignore and hide my comment from public view.

He wickedly decided to hide the Biblical Truth about national blessing from you and others!

Clearly, you don't understand Old Covenant Scriptures and their application to the New Covenant. The New Covenant is a better covenant with better promises. Now all peoples and all nations may call upon the Lord for personal and national blessings. The Gospel message of salvation is for all nations: “Go into all the world ...” And just as salvation is offered to all nations, personal and national blessings are promised to all persons and nations that exalt the Name of the Lord.

You blaspheme God by declaring He refuses to bless believing nations. “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord” (Psalm 33:12). “And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations” (Luke 24:47). All nations who own God for theirs and are owned by Him are of the spiritual seed of Abraham, and entitled to God's promises and blessings.

Get thee behind me, Satan: For it is written, “But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a BETTER covenant, which was established upon BETTER promises” Hebrews 8:6.

Did “Apologist” Chaffey reply to my second comment?

No!

Again, he decided to hide it from public view.

If he didn’t want to reply, why didn’t he just approve my comment and leave it posted?

Instead he acted cowardly and dastardly – he hid my comment!

After I exposed his cowardice in the October Liberty Letter and posted it on his blog, then he posted my comments and lied about me.

So, I replied. Again, he hid my replies rebuking his lies. If he did not want to reply, he could've left my comments posted for others to read and decide for themselves who is telling the truth.

Hiding comments is low-down, despicable, devious, deceitful, dishonest, and dishonorable!

Chaffey refuses to post my comments exposing his false teachings and corrupt apologetics...

Here are his replies to my other comments and my replies which he refuses to publish...

“If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.” John Wycliffe explains: “This great verse, the best known in all Chronicles, expresses as in no other Scripture God’s requirement for national blessing, whether in Solomon’s land, in Ezra’s, or in our own. Those who believe must forsake their sins, turn from the life that is centered in self, and yield to God’s word and will. Then, and only then, will heaven send revival.” The Wycliffe Bible Commentary

Psalm 33:12 “Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD; and the people whom he hath chosen for his own inheritance.” Matthew Henry explains: “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord, even Israel, who had the knowledge of the true God and were taken into covenant with him, and all others who own God for theirs and are owned by him; for they also, whatever nation they are of, are of the spiritual seed of Abraham.”

Get thee behind me, Satan: For it is written, “But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises” Hebrews 8:6.

Clearly, you don’t understand Old Covenant Scriptures and their application to the New Covenant. The New Covenant is a better covenant with better promises. Now all peoples and all nations may call upon the Lord for personal and national blessings. The Gospel message of salvation is for all nations: “Go into all the world …” And just as salvation is offered to all nations, personal and national blessings are promised to all persons and nations that exalt the Name of the Lord.

After I exposed Chaffey's cowardice in the October Liberty Letter and notified him, then he replied on Oct. 5...

Karen,
You have misunderstood and/or misrepresented my post. And because of that, you accuse me of working for Satan. Talk about an overreaction. Yes, the New Covenant is a better covenant. But that does not mean that all of the promises of the Old Covenant are suddenly made available to all in the New Covenant. It is a new covenant. Furthermore, the covenant being spoken of in Hebrews 8:6 is the Mosaic Covenant, which is often referred to as the Old Covenant or the Law of Moses. But the passage in 2 Chronicles 7 is not part of that covenant that was made with Moses. It was a promise God gave to Solomon about his people, the Israelites, and their land. Israel.
Where does the New Covenant tell us that all nations may call upon the Lord for national blessings? Yes, salvation is offered to all nations — to all people of every tongue, tribe, and nation. But where does the New Covenant state anything about national blessings?
I didn’t say that God “refuses to bless believing nations.” You are putting words in mouth (keyboard?). I specifically stated, “…let me point out that I think there are certainly principles we can draw from this. It is always a good thing for God’s people to humble themselves and pray for their nation. As Christians, we absolutely should pray for our nation. We should pray for our neighbors, friends, loved ones, and even our politicians–even the ones we don’t agree with (see 1 Timothy 2:1–4). I think it would be wonderful if every Christian would humble himself or herself and pray for our nation. It can’t hurt, and I think we would see God do some amazing things.” That sure doesn’t sound like I said God refuses to bless believing nations.
My point of this post and the others in this series is to help Christians pay close attention to the context of a passage. I would urge you to read the post more carefully instead of jumping to conclusions, accusing me of blasphemy, and making false claims about what I did or did not write. For now, I’ll stand by my statement that 2 Chronicles 7:14 is not a divine promise to Christians that if they humble themselves and pray that God will heal their nation. For example, let’s assume that there is a nation (not Israel) of 10 million people with just 100 Christians in it. And let’s assume that all 100 Christians are devout and faithful believers who humble themselves and pray for God to bring healing on their land (which in the context of 2 Chr. 7:14 has to do with drought and pestilence). Will God have to do it because .001% of the nation was praying for its healing? Or might He bring judgment because 99.999% were ungodly? Yes, He’ll reward those who were faithful to Him, but that reward is not necessarily in the here and now.

So, I replied but my reply was either deleted or hidden, and still is as of today - October 27. This is dirty apologetics!

In typical reaction of an “apologist” and “theologian” you claim I misunderstand your article. I clearly understand what you’re saying.

Moreover, Hebrews 8:6 is not referring to the Mosaic Covenant. Verse 6 is talking about the covenant of grace, “of which Christ is the Mediator: his ministry is more excellent, by how much he is the Mediator of a better covenant” (Matthew Henry). Hebrews 8:7,8 explain the Mosaic Covenant was not faultless.

According to you, “it can’t hurt” if we humble ourselves as a nation. But you don’t say that God will bless us if we humble ourselves as a nation. So, you’re saying that God may refuse to bless us as a nation if we humble ourselves and repent.

I am aware of the context of the promise of 2 Chronicles. So…Do Christian nations lose hope and despair because we’re not under the Old Covenant? God forbid.

These verses are talking about national repentance. National repentance, prayer, and reformation are required.

Just as there are national judgments, there are national blessings. IF we repent as a nation, THEN national mercy is promised, God will forgive our sin, and heal our land.

The real children of Abraham are not his natural descendants (Mt.3:9), but those who share his faith. This was anticipated in the very language of the Abrahamic covenant, which had all nations in view.

The Republic of the Israelites is an example to all peoples and all nations. The Israelites may be considered as a pattern to the world in all ages; and from them we may learn what will exalt our national character: “Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.” National repentance will result in national blessings.

From the October [name of newsletter and link removed per site policy]
Recently, a Facebook friend shared a link to an article by Tim Chaffey who boasts…

Insights from a husband, father, author, apologist, and theologian.
COMMONLY MISUSED BIBLE VERSES: 2 CHRONICLES 7:14
http://midwestapologetics.org/blog/?p=462
I went to Chaffey’s article…
“Apologist” Chaffey argues that Christians can’t claim Old Testament promises.
So, I posted this in the comments section at the end of his article…
We’re not under the Old Covenant; we’re under the New Covenant. And under the New Covenant, God extended His grace and mercy to all believing nations: Halleluiah!…
Did “Apologist” Chaffey reply to my first comment?
No.
He deleted it!
So, I posted another comment…
Did “Apologist” Chaffey reply to the second comment?
No!
He deleted it too!
If he didn’t want to reply, why didn’t he just leave my comments posted in the comments section at the end of his article?
Instead he acted cowardly – he deleted my comments!
I’m still laughing at Tim Chaffey the Cowardly Apologist!
Beware of apologists!
Read the entire October Liberty Letter [link removed per site policy]
Karen Pansler Lam, J.D.
[name and link removed per site policy]

Karen,
As anyone can see in the previous comments, your comments were not deleted. They just had not been approved yet because I did not have time to respond to them yet. I operate this site when I find time to maintain it. That’s why I only have written three new posts this year, which is much less than I’d like to do, but I happen to be quite busy with my regular job and other writing projects.
So, instead of seeking understanding, you decided to continue to make false claims about me. First, you accused me of blasphemy in your previous comment, even though that charge was based on misrepresenting what I had written. Then you decided to include me in your newsletter and make some more false claims (e.g., that I deleted your comments). Then you called me Satan and mocked me.
Well, readers of this blog can decide for themselves which one of us (if either) is behaving in a godly manner in these exchanges. When someone resorts to misrepresenting another and calls them names, it’s generally a good indicator that they aren’t behaving in a godly manner. The Lord commands us to love one another and to speak the truth in love. Mockery, name calling, and misrepresentations do not fulfill those commands.
It’s one thing to disagree with a fellow believer over the proper interpretation of a passage. It’s quite another thing to jump to conclusions based on misrepresentations of a person’s view and then slander and mock that person.
You asked, “If he didn’t want to reply, why didn’t he just leave my comments posted in the comments section at the end of his article?” The answer is, “Because I am not obligated to approve any comment that someone leaves, particularly those who accuse me of blasphemy and call me Satan.” No comment ever shows up on my blog unless I first approve it. I do that because I want this blog to be suitable for readers of all ages, and I don’t want some of the language used by skeptics filling up the comment section.
Typically, I only approve comments by people who behave in a civil manner. Your first post was civil, although I disagree with the commentaries that you shared for reasons listed in the post. And I could easily share quotes from commentaries that agree with me. But the point is to look closely at the text rather than just finding people who support your view. Your second post was certainly not civil. And this third one is not even close. The only reasons I approved your second and third comments is because you have published lies about me and I want people to be able to see the truth.

I looked for my comments on your blog several times, but did not see them posted.

Preach the word;
be instant in season, out of season;
reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine”
2 Tim. 4:2

This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply,
that they may be sound in the faith;
Not giving heed to Jewish fables,
and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

You are teaching the Jewish fable that only the Jewish nation is blessed. This is a lie!

All nations who own God for theirs and are owned by Him are of the spiritual seed of Abraham, and entitled to God's promises and blessings. And this includes national blessings.

I thank God that our Founding Fathers who founded America as a Christian nation understood that God blesses nations other than the nation of Israel.

In 1621, William Bradford recorded a miracle in Plymouth Colony. Plymouth experienced a great drought which continued from the third week in May till about the middle of July, without any rain and with great heat. The corn began to wither even though it had been planted with fish to help keep it moist. Bradford records the miracle…

Upon which they set apart a solemn day of humiliation to seek the Lord by humble and fervent prayer in this great distress. And He was pleased to give them a gracious and speedy answer, both to their own and the Indians’ admiration that lived among them. For all the morning and greatest part of the day it was clear weather and very hot, and not a cloud or any sign of rain to be seen; yet toward evening it began to overcast and shortly after to rain with such sweet and gentle showers as gave them cause of rejoicing and blessing God. It came without either wind or thunder or any violence and by degrees and in that abundance as that the earth was thoroughly wet and soaked therewith; which did so apparently revive and quicken the decayed corn and other fruits, as was wonderful to see, and made the Indians astonished to behold. And afterward the Lord sent them such seasonable showers with interchange of fair warm weather as through His blessing, caused a fruitful and liberal harvest, to their no small comfort and rejoicing. For which mercy, in times convenient they also set apart a day for thanksgiving.

I have a law degree, so I am well aware of looking at the context of the Scripture. But I am also aware that Satan can quote Scripture and take it out of context, just as he quoted Scripture to Jesus in the desert, and took it out of context. The Bible is a Book of Covenants – the Old and New. And to properly interpret it, we must look cover to cover. And the New Covenant is a better covenant with better promises. God blesses nations other than the nation of Israel. God bless America!

Of course, Chaffey hid my first 2 comments and posted and answered them only after I exposed his cowardice. And he has no intention of posting my last replies to his lies. Chaffey plays dirty apologetics!

Chaffey is a dirty apologist who hides Biblical Truth from public view! He thinks you're too stupid to decide who is telling the Truth, and refuses to let you and others read my replies. Indeed, apologists are arrogant, vain, conceited, egotistical, self-important, pretentious, and pompous.

Just like the person who played dirty politics by twice putting a dirty diaper by the Trump sign in my front yard, Chaffey plays dirty apologetics by refusing to post all comments exposing his dirty lies and dirty teachings.